tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-143485269626703118.post7281074813980432262..comments2024-03-29T18:36:44.216+11:00Comments on A peaceful day: Talking of numbersJeannehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09573473465011631325noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-143485269626703118.post-14361891788787574362010-03-24T09:45:43.019+11:002010-03-24T09:45:43.019+11:00I understood Maths much better once i began to tea...I understood Maths much better once i began to teach it, and actually started to enjoy it once I saw it was a lot like the word puzzles I loved, only with digits. <br /><br />In my teaching, I used lots of games and physical materials. Measurement especially, I loved to get kids to estimate and heft stuff, trying to get an idea of its weight or distance etc. And patterns were always fun.BookChookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06230711251425187241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-143485269626703118.post-65554157739378378892010-03-24T08:43:43.640+11:002010-03-24T08:43:43.640+11:00i have a headache, too. :)
not a math person but...i have a headache, too. :)<br /><br />not a math person but found<br />ways to make it fun for my<br />kids.<br /><br />i believe that the more they<br />have memorized the more<br />chances they have to make<br />sense of it all.<br /><br />we loved saxon math for<br />the way it kept many<br />concepts before the <br />children not just one at<br /> a time.<br /><br />whew!myletterstoemilyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17555607498974287844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-143485269626703118.post-6122628339837129672010-03-24T04:15:26.905+11:002010-03-24T04:15:26.905+11:00as usual, I totally agree.
memorization is vital...as usual, I totally agree. <br />memorization is vital. <br />we fall somewhere in the middle too.<br />here's my post on the matter... <br /><br />http://fisheracademy.blogspot.com/2009/11/evolution-of-math-drill.html<br /><br />amy in peruamy in peruhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14514765606705513864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-143485269626703118.post-54311981875185979052010-03-24T01:49:54.002+11:002010-03-24T01:49:54.002+11:00Boring or not, I come down firmly on learning the ...Boring or not, I come down firmly on learning the times tables, doing basic addition/subtraction drills and on practicing mental math regardless of how the kids does school! For most of us this is the only math we will really use! In homeschool I also assign math and grammar vocabulary purely to get them thru the standardized tests. I also like using Living Math. I have raved many times about the How Math Works, etc, series--great photos, great activities. The Family Math books are also helpful as is Grocery Store Math--my kids really enjoyed doing these and it made grocery shopping less stressful!Hopewellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02510172065585770709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-143485269626703118.post-85004668846329421762010-03-23T17:41:30.634+11:002010-03-23T17:41:30.634+11:00Maths....not my strong point that's for sure. ...Maths....not my strong point that's for sure. Still, I can see the benefit of knowing our number facts, especially x tables. I try , I really do...I just don't think I really enjoy :( Still me younger two girls, and their younger brother seem to have the knack -who knew! Obviously their daddy's genes I think! Love the old book though- just gorgeous..:)Melhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01103643232928794226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-143485269626703118.post-60411945307049588262010-03-23T12:17:09.424+11:002010-03-23T12:17:09.424+11:00As you suggest, a bit of all. I see the power of m...As you suggest, a bit of all. I see the power of memorization, and if I understood Liping Ma correctly (more here http://educandoenelhogar.blogspot.com/2010/02/math-has-awaken.html<br />I believe good math teachers would teach the skill or the WHY and HOW of what you are doing, and then they will PRACTICE (drill) to master all aspects of mathematics.<br />I had to learn the tables and I always thought it ridiculous to color squares in fifth grade (as I had to do once when I was substituting in a class) to teach the tables so they understood.Silviahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17249978624747684879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-143485269626703118.post-5314740327207621842010-03-23T12:17:02.262+11:002010-03-23T12:17:02.262+11:00Argh! My head hurts!
I learned by rote and must s...Argh! My head hurts! <br />I learned by rote and must say still know my times table pretty well. My eldest daughter learnt in a similar way (the good reader) but the others have all struggled with rote learning, skip counting etc. Just this morning the youngest dazzled me with some 8 times so I think the repetious use of them is working.<br />Alas, though I knew my tables well I did not go on to be a great maths scholar in higher grades :-(Rubyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12635847963310037609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-143485269626703118.post-84417073927593221912010-03-23T10:48:14.237+11:002010-03-23T10:48:14.237+11:00Yea, I learned by rote memorisation too but I know...Yea, I learned by rote memorisation too but I know what you mean that you need to use it once you learn it before you learn more new things in maths!<br />I like Rachel have used what I've learned in maths in various other areas of my life, it's a very useful thing - maths!:)Joyfulmumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01888086629467112175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-143485269626703118.post-52449696078692538062010-03-23T09:59:53.027+11:002010-03-23T09:59:53.027+11:00Either, neithor or both?
Possibly a little of all...Either, neithor or both?<br /><br />Possibly a little of all of the above for us. We just hum along with our maths - I dig out some drills when I see an obvious gap/struggle in some of the facts, and then we move along to hum along our way again. And I suspect also a little of the pictorial/abstract maths going on in some of our little brains here as well.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16656724991654128283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-143485269626703118.post-38223055435440545292010-03-23T09:25:18.590+11:002010-03-23T09:25:18.590+11:00Very thoughtful post, Jeanne. I learned all my ma...Very thoughtful post, Jeanne. I learned all my maths facts by memory. Similarly to you, the teacher would pick a number, write it on the board and surround it with the other digtits. Then we'd take turns at calling out the multiplication answer - out of order of course. I wonder if we'd learn them as well if they were always in order. I've always intended to get serious about getting my girls to learn their tables as a thing in itself, but we never got around to doing it, but just carried on with our maths books, and now, after using them so often and doing lots of mixed drills, I'm sure there are only the odd few that they don't know immediately. Once we did make up little times-table booklets, where I had them write each table out on a page. They were to use them as a bookmark in their maths text. They used them for a while to help them out with their long divisions etc, but they ended up getting lost. I guess they did their job for a while and now they don't really need them anymore.<br />Maths is so important - just look at the builder, or the seamstress, or the baker! I have often used my knowledge of algebra to solve problems, often in our business to work out price increases etc.<br />I also believe that the very study of maths is great training in logical thinking, which all of our children need to be able to do in this day & age. <br />What a ramble!rachaelnzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17750543424225301783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-143485269626703118.post-76821530433302243012010-03-23T08:41:15.657+11:002010-03-23T08:41:15.657+11:00Jeanne: as you know math is our weakest area. Nei...Jeanne: as you know math is our weakest area. Neither Ditz nor I know any of our number facts ~ & not for want of trying to learn them. Ditz does a lot of concret math in her head; always has. Basic math she is actually goud at & has a sound understanding. We never had an issue untill the abstract stuff, for which we have no possible us, came into it.I know, because I once{foolishly] asked Ditz to show me how she worked number problems for which she didn't know her number facts, that she thinks in pictures mathamatically & then *sees* the answer. I suspect this is faster than many methods & as accurate but because you can't *show your working* not popular amongst teachers. Someone needs to write a math text for the random abstract non~sequential thinkers amongst us. I take your point [really I do ☺] but suspect there are other options we haven't even dreamt of because of the sequential nature of math. That of course is the thinking of a random abstract thinker because *of course* there must be another option; there always is; I just haven't thought of it yet! lolGaneidahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17176246964466185315noreply@blogger.com